Joe is joined by Marvin Miller, the former head of the Major League Baseball Player's Association, who played a vital role in transforming the player's union into the most powerful union in all of sports. In a fascinating conversation, Marvin discusses the challenges he faced in taking on the owners and how he was able to increase salaries and revenues for both the union and management. Joe is also joined by Sports Illustarted Senior Writer and longtime journalist, Frank Deford, who has a new book "Over Time: My Life as a Sportswriter" out in stores now. Frank and Joe talk about Bill Russell, covering the NBA and MLB in the '60s and much more!